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rabbits and to check the eggs

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and when I came back in

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I looked up and saw this thing in the

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hurry

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Mr Trent took the first photo as the

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object passed within 500 yards of the

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house

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the second was snap as it appeared West

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and began to gain altitude he had to

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change position as the object passed

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behind the garage to his left

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and he took the picture of it as it was

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straight and then as it tipped and when

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I tipped it had that wind it just come

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up like that and dipped and just

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I mean really wet

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it didn't have no smoke no motor just to

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wind onto it and it would I would say

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right around the size of a big parachute

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maybe a little bit bigger but right

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right around that size

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it went fast

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I've never seen anything go so fast in

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my life as that thing went

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using information gathered from the

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Trent's testimony combined with aerial

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photos taken around that time

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this computer animation was created and

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superimposed against the actual

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background very near where Mr Trent

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at that time Mr Trent feared that he may

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have exposed some kind of government

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experiment

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as a result he did nothing with the

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photos

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his niece

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her husband was in the service

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and he showed the pictures to him

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and he took them in to the bank

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guy two guys dead now but was a bank guy

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he put him in the window of the bank and

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that even caused all commotion and you

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ever heard of I went down the street one

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day uh sometime in June in 1950 and

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walked into the First National Bank and

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Ralph Ralph Workman who with his brother

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owned and operated the first national uh

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got a hold of me and said Phil uh you

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better find out he says uh one of our

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customers a Paul Trent who lives out

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towards on the Sheridan Highway has some

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pictures of uh unidentified flying

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objects that he took so he said you

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better find out and see if you can get a

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hold of them and so I came back to the

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office and talked to Bill Powell who was

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our news editor at that time and said

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bill go out to the trance and see what

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you can find about the pictures my

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publisher came in and says

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our two Bankers Paul and Ralph Workman

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seen pictures of what appear to be

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aesthetic pictures of flying saucers

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and will you chase the story down when

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Bill got out there they couldn't find

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the negatives as he told it in those at

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that time

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and as a consequence they searched and

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they finally found the negatives uh

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rolling around on the floor under the

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Davenport

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Bill Powell returned to the paper with

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the story and the negatives

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I did my own darkroom work

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in addition to punching out the news

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stories

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and uh

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I projected the things on the wall to

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make sure that there were no uh strings

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holding these objects up

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unable to find anything wrong with the

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photos they decided to run the story

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Bill brought the negatives back in we

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made pictures and had big zinc plates uh

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made of them and published them on the

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front page of the newspaper the 8th of

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June in 1950 and from that time on we

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created a windstorm a storm about what

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was going on on these UFOs

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by June the 11th the story was run in

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the Portland Oregonian and the Los

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they took pictures of of it and of ours

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and put it in the news register

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and then all kinds of people wrote into

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them to get that news register that

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front page especially

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nationally known radio commentator Frank

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Edwards was fascinated with the story he

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asked me if if he could tell people they

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could send us a dime and get a copy of

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the telephone registers which is what

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was the name of the newspaper at that

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time and I said sure and this

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correspondent to Frank Edwards the

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register reported the mail request for

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the front page totaled 2150.

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by August the 13th the total had risen

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the people sent dimes and dollars and we

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had the whole room boxes filled and my

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brother and sister-in-law and my wife

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and I spent days and evenings opening

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letters and mailing out copies of the

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front page he broadcast the story

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nationally promoting copies of the

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photos

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he also claimed to have personally taken

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two enlargements to the Pentagon in

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person

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I was told they were the best civilian

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photographs of an unidentified flying

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object that the Air Force has ever seen

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there were some government agencies in

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there at first I thought it was FBI but

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I think it was more likely

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official government involvement remained

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unclear

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Force office of special investigations

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but Mrs Trent specifically remembers the

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FBI

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they came to the house and this this guy

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said he was FBI guy he had that builtful

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with the FBI thing onto it it looked

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look look real

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but he just come into the house he says

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can I come in and I said yeah he said I

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told him I haven't got nothing to hide

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and he says uh do you have any other

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photos

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but I says no

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and then he said when he said can I look

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and I should look for what and he said I

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thank you ma'am

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I'm sure he just started and dumped the

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stuff out of the dresser drawers onto

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the bed

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we're all through it didn't find

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anything done the same way with the

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come back into the kitchen and started

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asking questions and going through the

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coverage in the kitchen but he didn't

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but he didn't put nothing back either I

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had to put everything back that was in a

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dress version in the chest of drug which

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was a job to do clothes was all it was

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into it nothing else but clothes

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but still yet they had to be put back

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away you're doing everything yeah they

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were doing everything to try to prove

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that that the pictures weren't real

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there's always been a denial that the

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government had had anything to do with

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trying to get in to find out information

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about it

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this letter received in response to a

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freedom of information request denies

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any knowledge of an FBI investigation

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into the matter

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I think it was a secret thing and it

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just happened to get out the worst part

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of it was the FBI guy coming and taking

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on going through all your stuff and it

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wouldn't be just one time it would be

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several times to just come and want to

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take pictures out in your yard

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and everything just just bother you

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the trends were flown back to New York

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City by the producers of We the People

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television show for a special appearance

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and they were instructed to bring the

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negatives

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we went back to New York We the People

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television

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and they tried to get us to say all

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different things which wasn't so but we

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wouldn't do it if we couldn't tell it

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the way it was exactly we weren't going

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to do it well when they found out that

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we weren't going to do it then they said

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okay we'll do it do it just the way you

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said it so that's what we did and they

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kept our negatives

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we never did see them again

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typically UFO hoaxes are accompanied by

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an effort to profit from the attention

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this opportunity never seems to have

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occurred to the trends although

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apparently the value of the negatives

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did not escape the notice of others

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and we had a great deal of difficulty

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finding the negatives that we couldn't

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find out who had them UPI at that time

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said they didn't have them and they

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appeared in Life magazine in August and

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then they were reprinted all over in

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publications of books on UFOs all over

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the country in 1968 Edward Condon was in

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charge of the official U.S government

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project to examine the growing body of

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UFO evidence it was then that the trent

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case resurfaced

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the negatives apparently turned up in

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the files of the ins international news

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the trends were re-questioned geological

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map studied and the conveniently

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rediscovered negatives were given a

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complete scientific examination

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1969 after the release of the content

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report William Hartman case Analyst for

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the study gave this conclusion

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an extraordinary flying object flew

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this was a bold statement considering

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the majority of findings of the Condon

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still the tractors were adamant about

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proving the Trent photos Were Somehow

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during this time Philip J class a

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specialist at debunking UFO reports

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examined the photos

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he raised a number of questions

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the most serious charge was the claim

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that the Shadows from the eaves on the

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side of the building were inconsistent

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with the time of the day the trents

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reported taking the photos

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his contention was that the photos were

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actually taken in the morning

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Dr Bruce Maccabee a renowned research

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physicist working for the naval surface

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weapons Center conducted his own

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intensive investigations

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a skeptic had argued that it was

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physically impossible

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for anything but the Sun

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to make shadows such as what appear

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under the uh Eve of the Trent garage

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roof and what I was able to show was

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that first of all

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the Shadows that are there do not seem

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to be consistent with the sun they seem

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to have been made by something larger in

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angular size in the Sun and second of

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all I actually succeeded in

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photographing Shadows made by a cloud in

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the east at Sunset Shadows on an East

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wall East wall of my house so in other

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words it proved that a cloud could do

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that in 1981 he published his findings

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including an in-depth analysis

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supporting the view that from the

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analysis of the brightness scale and

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exposure level of the unidentified

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object photos

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I have concluded that the photos were

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not taken in the morning

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Dr Hartman had analyzed these pictures

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for the con report and had very cleverly

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noted that the brightness of the

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elliptical bottom seemed to be it seemed

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to be too bright for some object that

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was close to the camera and so he

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decided that perhaps the added

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brightness of the bottom was a result of

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atmospheric Extinction in which case it

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would be a long distance away and he

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used a formula to calculate how far away

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it was then monoseptics came along and

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said well by the way something called

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valenglare could add to the brightness

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of the elliptical image of the bottom

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and thereby create the effect of being

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distant even though the object was close

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by

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and so the result of that was that first

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of all Hartman's calculation indicated a

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distance of over a kilometer

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but when the veiling glare was taken

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into account the distance could shrink

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to zero

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and then I discovered yet another

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correction factor to Hartman's analysis

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the veiling glare was the first

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correction factor the next production

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Factor was the ratio of brightnesses of

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a horizontal versus a vertical surface

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and when that was applied I found that

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that sort of counteracted the veiling

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glare effect and so the result of the

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improved calculation was once again that

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the object if it was not a source of

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Light by itself must have been distant a

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kilometer or more away Dr Maccabee also

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ruled out any Optical fabrication and

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after countless interviews stated that

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he did not find the trends likely

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candidates for perpetrating a hoax

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Dr McAfee concluded that the original

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results of the 1967 study held stating

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the simplest and most direct

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interpretation is that the photos

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correlate with the witness's testimony

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and finally in 1971 they were returned

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to us by United Press International and

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we got them back to the trench at that

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time

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beside local news stories the photos

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appeared in Life Magazine as well as

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countless other Publications including

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books television and today the internet

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all without anyone ever obtaining

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permission or releases from the trance

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in those days you didn't think anything

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about it

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um it uh

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was a um

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I'm sure that we didn't get any signed

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we didn't benefit in any way on it and I

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it may have been that after the negities

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went back to the Press service and they

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were in the hands of the press service

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for some 20 years they may have have

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reaped some benefit out of them but

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there weren't they weren't ever

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purchased and nobody ever went to the uh

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the way we handled it nobody ever went

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to the trents and asked him for a

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release on them everybody was writing me

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of wanting pictures

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there was nothing I could do all I would

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do was right back into it to get to the

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news register and get a front page copy

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of it it was all I could do and that's

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what I would do

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today the transfinancial situation is

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not good

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Mr Trent has been plagued with physical

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problems including a stroke in 1994.

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which left it difficult for him to talk

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it is clear that the revenues from the

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photos may have made a difference in the

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lives of the trends there was nothing

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that I could hide because there was

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nothing to hide in the first place

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all it was was the pictures

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and they were not people that we thought

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that would come up with a fictitious

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scam and they had made no effort to have

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them published it was the only reason

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they were published is because we went

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out to with Mr Powell and as a result of

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Mr Wortman we went out and got the

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negative and brought them in and had the

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plates made out of them and the thing

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that's interesting is that the trent

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photos are basically about the best

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photos that still have ever been

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published about UFOs

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I definitely

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feel that

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this was as authentic

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as you could get well the bottom line is

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I think that the technicalities of this

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go beyond their capability uh to have

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created The hoax and second of all if

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they had done so

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um I don't think they could have

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maintained

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the story that they made up you know

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they could have maintained that story

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maybe for a few weeks during the first

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interviews but then to be interviewed

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about it uh 10 years later 17 years

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later 10 years later by Frank Hall said

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17 years later by Hartman 19 years later

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by Jim McDonald 25 years later by me

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over and over and over and over again

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until she must have been sick of me

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calling I don't think they could have

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done my conclusion is it was a real

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but like I said I would never take

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another picture at all never

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they're called the Trent photos two

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shots of a flying saucer over

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McMinnville are some of the most abated

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pieces of Oregon history Paul and Evelyn

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Trent took the pictures back in 1950.

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and now their children have turned to on

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your side investigator Dan Tilcon to get

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the negative's return he's going to join

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us now they're in the hands of a local

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newspaper that just refuses to give them

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up Dan what's the deal well the Trent

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family in the McMinnville news register

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are forever intertwined on this the

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paper first published the photos 58

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years ago inspiring Wonder inspiring

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ridicule the Trent family has had no

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control over the use and they still

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don't because the newspaper has other

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plans there's the original front page

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photo snapped within moments taken here

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in the backyard of the Trent Farm in

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McMinnville the local newspaper sold

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thousands of copies across the country

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Linda Saylor and Tammy gokenauer

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remember their parents account of what

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happened mom was feeding the rabbits

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saw something

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hollered at Paul

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Paul and Dad's instinct was to go get

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the camera and then the saucer was gone

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critics have long said what the trents

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did In This Very spot let's pull off one

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of the most elaborate UFO hoaxes in

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history that they took a pie plate or a

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hubcap and dangled it from power lines

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that run in front of the property the

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trends always maintained they saw

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something but the ridicule took a toll

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on the family for the alien family

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that's all we were talked about was the

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alien family when Paul and Evelyn Trend

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died in the mid 90s the location the

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negatives was a mystery Linda Saylor

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discovered they had been in the hands of

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Navy physicist and UFO investigator Dr

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Bruce Maccabee since

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1974. I contacted the trends myself and

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talked to Mrs extensively over the few

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years

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she said it was okay if I borrowed the

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negatives

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and I implied that I was only going to

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keep them for a few weeks while I looked

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at them while I became apparent that uh

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they had really good stuff in them and

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it took me more than two weeks I

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actually had the negatives for like 25

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years Maccabee agreed to return the

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negatives to the Trent children case

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closed right Linda thought it would be

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safer if Maccabees sent the negatives to

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the McMinnville news register to pass on

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to her that was 2001 and she's been

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trying ever since to get the newspaper

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to give them back

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I'm Mr bladene this is Dan tilkin with

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KATU television calling you back again

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we wanted the newspaper to explain why

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it's keeping the negatives but the

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publisher Jeb lay Dean won't agree to an

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interview so through these documents

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we'll have to explain past arguments his

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father Phil ran the paper when the

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photos were published in this letter

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from 1970 shows Phil helped get the

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Trent's negatives on the Flying Saucer

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back from United Press International

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when they disappeared the first time

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Phil bladene is also the man who lent

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the negatives to Bruce mcavey with the

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permission of Paul and Evelyn Trent

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three decades ago the fact that Phil

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blading had them to lend is the Crux of

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the newspaper's argument in this letter

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to the family jebladine writes Paul

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Trent left the negatives in

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philbladine's hands with the indication

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that he wanted nothing more to do with

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them the letter States the paper

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believes that the negative should become

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part of a permanent historic display in

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Yamhill County with a mediated

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settlement as to access a and other

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rights even after Bruce mcabee made it

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clear in this email he sent the

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negatives to philblay Dean under the

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assumption that he would return the

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photos to the Trent children then he

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clearly instructs you should return them

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trans children are clearly the rightful

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owners

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[Music]

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since since Mr and Mrs Trent never

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signed any document giving the rights to

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anyone else

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went to the newspaper in person and

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you're told Jeb ladene was in a meeting

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and he'd get back to us well he did six

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days later in this email writing it's

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possible there will be legal proceedings

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related to the UFO photographs and I am

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not willing to participate in media

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interviews on the subject we maintain

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our belief that the negatives should

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become part of a permanent historic

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display in Yamhill County we're not

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going to take them and try and make

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millions of them we just want to put

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them like in a safety deposit box and

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have them locked up to where we know

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where they're at it's just something

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that belongs with the family it doesn't

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say deadly Dean photos it doesn't say